Talk (running) amongst yourselves, kids


Morning runners. Apologies for treating you all like my children but have you done your violin practice, did you put those clothes away and... oh no sorry, I mean look - I'm really busy - talk amongst yourselves, yeah?

Having spent the entire weekend at the National Running Show, talking running and The Running Channel, I had to do my long run of 15 miles first thing this morning and now I'm off filming again. So I've no time to deal with your grazed knee, and we'll talk about packed lunch later. Play nicely, and I'll be back later to check in on you all ...


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  1. My immune system has collapsed. It can't handle this country. I need a nurse.

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    1. If only someone had a chicken soup recipe.

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    2. If only I had an ounce of energy... been sick all January... the whole fucking thing.

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    3. go on Kiz, post the recipe for old times sake :-)

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  2. Well I'm halfway through marathon training (I've done 7 weeks of 15 full training, then I have 3 week taper after that, and the next 8 weeks are quite a bit heavier than the 7 I've done, but calling it halfway helps OK). Yesterday felt like a real victory though, I'm up to 30K on my long runs and lying in bed with it freezing outside I really didn't feel like I could get up, never mind run for two and a half hours. Eventually got out and after 5K I was warmed up enough and flying, first time training with gels as well which seemed to help, and finished fairly comfortably. The mileage is starting to build up a bit now, and I'm constantly hungry and in need of a nap (Yes, that's definitely to do with the running and not to do with me in general), but I'm feeling good about it all so far.

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  3. Shame there was no blog last week as plenty to talk about between Hawkins, Muir, London marathon lists AND half of my toenail which has been black since the Müggelsee HM last October finally fell off.

    Anyway. I'm having an interesting time of it on a work junkit which for various reasons is confining me to the treadmill. Another while to go which means 90% of the Barca HM prep will be done on the machine rather than real running. Hmm. On one hand if it's good enough for Mo Farah and Asta it will surely do me but it still doesn't seem convincing, not least because I'm certain the calibration is iffy. Managed a 73k week and after a much-needed day off will targeting a record 80k this week - we shall see...

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    1. well...you know how much effort you're using so you can recalibrate on the fly. if youre working to a coaching plan then you know how uncomfortable the intervals should feel and if a long run feels too comfortable (or vice versa).

      i remember being in NY back in 2015 and failing my first couple of sessions but after changing the incline to 0.5 I was back on track.

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    2. Certainly feels like hard work so that'll do!

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    3. I do a lot of treadmill work. Recommend 1.0% for all runs and generally adding 0.5km/h to the speed up to about 14km/h, a little more above this. Then run by effort as asta suggests.

      This works for hard-used treadmills, in my experience, and of course if you have a footpod you can do better

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    4. Ta, I always have it on 1% as standard. It's like training in sauna so the effort is there whatever the actual speed is!

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  4. Well... Jasmin Paris.

    Not much you can stack up next to that spectacular Spine Race but like Handsome Devil, I managed 70+k almost all on the hamster wheel save for a sodden 8k race that was supposed to be held on trails but was switched to road due to mud and flooding. Suffice it to say it was (1) very cold, (2) very wet and (3) very vertical.

    Now it's -15C outside, the sun is shining and I want no part of it. :-(

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    1. hmmmm....the Spine race (winter edition, 7 years old) - a glorified staying awake competition from a 90s Japanese gameshow or a sprint version of an Antarctic trek.

      Jasmin Paris is obviously a world class ultra-trail/'skyrunner' (6th female in UTMB, albeit 6 hour behind the male winner) but the kerfuffle about her result lat week is barmy.

      1. It's like Paula Radcliffe showing up at an obscure 10k (like one in CPH, recently won in 34.42), running 32 minutes and then people claiming that she had turned in some kind of epocjh defining performance because she beat some average-at-best men (like me for example).

      2. 3 miles per hour isnt running

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    2. Kerfuffle to you, inspiration to others.

      My top hope for Olympic qualification in my coaching group right now is still-nursing athlete who's returned to the sport after the birth of her daughter. At her recent international 'comeback' competition, we had to make provisions for her to breast pump throughout the week.

      She performed far better than expected and she says this was due in no small part to the welcoming and inclusive environment from the rest of the team. She'd been nervous about the whole experience and had had questions in her mind about whether a return to elite international competition would be possible at all as a mum - this is considering that she also works a full-time job.

      So call it what you like - running or 'not running' or a whole lot of nothing. But as a coach, I find that there's a lot of you-can-do-it-too in a story like this one.

      :-)

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    3. mrs asta had to breast pump through her nursing and doctoring finals (terrible timing with both children). in fact, she was breast-pumping through the supplementary exams she took in order to make the jump from nurse to medic (single year A-level maths and Chemistry at the same time as a final year nursing degree).

      there's inspiration everywhere, we dont need to blow a story out of all proportion to make it newsworthy.

      when someone does it in 75 hours next year it will make the hysteria (sports personality of the year???) seem all the more ridiculous.

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    4. Bit grumpy asta? I’m pleased at anything which raises the profile of women sportspeople, ultra running, and points out some of the physical differences that women have that men don’t. With all that, I can forgive a bit of OTT reporting.

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    5. Certainly beats my 15 days to cover the 268 miles and that felt hard enough. It was Autumn not Winter and hardly 'unsupported' as I stayed at Youth Hostels / B&B rather than carry a tent. I do fancy another go at the PW, but it will Summer and in no way will it resemble a run.

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    6. Not sure if I'm being grumpy or just offering facts...there's no malice intended, i just think it's all bollocks.

      It's hard to talk about it without sounding like I'm defending blokes (which I most definitely am not) but the coverage has generally been centered around her beating the MEN'S record which is neither here nor bloody there. These are ridiculous niche races eg 'the tom, dick and harry round'...races invented by bored farmers and relative position or time means nowt. We all know that the playing field gets more level as distance increases (if a man and woman share a HM PB the woman will out-perform over full M) but every time JP has been in a field of elite men she finishes hours behind. The reporting has been deliberately misleading to make Joe Public think she has made some kind of quantum leap but women have been doing awesome feats of endurace for decades.

      Courtney Dauwalter would probably hammer JP if they raced and even she is no match for US elite men in the 'elite' sport of endurance running. And yes, I did just use quotation marks around elite because in general it absolutely isnt (although there are elite performers).

      I have a good friend who is very talented but not what I woud describe as a world class runner. He decided to give ultras a go (because he wasnt going to win anything against better athletes aover shorter distances) and is now national 100k champion in his (very large) country despite running an age-graded performance worse than his best over shorter distances.

      Women athletes dont need their profile lifting, we have many amazing, world class athletes who occupy plenty of space in the back pages (Muir, KJT, Dina) and honestly, the fetishising of this, along with the calls of 'performance of the [year/decade/century/epoch] is bullshit when compared to the women putting in proper world class performances in proper star-studded fields.

      run/walking for three days with just a few capnaps - marvellous, well done her. But as I have alluded to above, it's just a sprint (with assistance) version of walking to the south pole and back for 59 days pulling a sled. Where were you all when Felicity Aston did something truly amazing?

      Yeah, thinking about it I am a bit grumpy!!!


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    7. I don't think you're being grumpy Asta and it's a fair debate. As we know running times are all relative. I would say that anything that raises profile and inspires others to get out there is worthwhile. I'm trying to get Mrs GJ to up her game from couch to 5k to couch to spine race. With our "kids" at University I'll be bloody worried if the breast pump reappears though!

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  5. It appears to have been enshrined in UK law that you cannot say anything contrary to the position that Jasmine Paris is the Greatest Athlete Ever in the History of Athletes and Explorers.

    Also, 'sc****m' (the sciency word for ball-bag) gets your comment deleted here and on the Guardian.

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    1. She's more likely to be forgotten by next month than named SPOTY I suspect, though that may just be my bias thinking as it's completely outwith my field of interest. Sounds a remarkable effort mind.

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  6. Well, I had a good race at the lovely Fred Hughes 10 mile on Sunday. St Albans Striders did their usual outstanding job of organisation. The weather was perfect and I managed to take almost 40s off last year’s time to finish in 1.02.36, a pleasing 12th in category now that I’m officially an old(er) man.

    Bodes reasonably well for the spring marathon season and a good confidence booster as I was catching up with people over the last mile or two.

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  7. I offer my greetings with some trepidation this week in case Asta bites my head off. You alright Asta? Dry Jan?

    Anyway, I lugged my ageing body up and down what can loosely be described as a hill in Cheshire 8 times on Sunday in an attempt to improve for the Anglesey HM in March. I then posted on Mark Roulston's Strava asking for advice on hill training and got some good replies and a great link from Becca T from her 2015 Guardian article on the subject. Thank you. I don't know how to get the link on here but if you go on Mark's strava from Sunday it is on there.

    As we have missed a week I couldn't post about the Cheshire 10k the week before but if anyone was running in the NW on Sunday 13th you will know that it was blowing a 30mph North Westerly, which was a headwind of the last 2k stretch at Tatton Park where it was held. I was more than happy dipping in just under 47 minutes although some way off a PB. This race happens monthly and is a RunThrough event. I believe about 700 were registered to run which is a great turn out and shows the increasing popularity of running (and post Christmas guilt). The day before I'd done my first ever Parkrun at Delamere and after all this time I now get it. Great fun but an hours round trip to run for 23 and a half minutes means I'll be a rare participant. Finally, both my wife and daughter have started C25K which gives me hope that one day they'll talk running with me. Until then, my virtual running companions, you'll have to put up with my ramblings. Kate, please keep opening the blog up to us even if you are too busy to write much - it makes Monday's a little more bearable! Happy running, everyone.

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    1. Mondays not Monday's - literally a schoolboy error.

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    2. had my first beer last night Jim. Now eating pizza for breakfast. Classy dude!

      Congrats to the wife and daughter...take them to parkrun for the 5k part of the C25k :)

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    3. Hi Asta, I have first beer jealousy but I am staying on the wagon for another week or so and trying to find an alcohol free beer I like. So far Nanny State by Brew Dog is winning although I found a really nice obscure one called Playground IPA that my local specialist beer bar had imported (Bottle Bank, Holmes Chapel, if a plug is acceptable). Thanks by proxy for the congrats to my wife and daughter - they are both determined to do it so I'll update on here. GJ.

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  9. Back in the UK after 5 weeks in the Philippines.....Today's run at 4 degrees was quite a change from the 25 degrees plus that I have been used to over the last few weeks. Also, because of the heat, I have been running shorter distances, so a cold 10K was a bit of a shock to the system.

    In between some beach days and some mountaineering, I was having a go at one of the strava segments close to where I was staying. 5 times round the local mall perimeter and just under 6K. For a largely flat run, it seemed hard, but I eventually crept close to the CR. Second was as good as it got, as the last 9 seconds I needed eluded me. I would have felt slightly guilty if I had managed it, as the current holder did it as part of a much longer run.

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  10. Hurrah for age-sex adjustment of race times! At last Sunday's Honest 10 ten km race around Wellington NZ's waterfront, I finished, as always, among the slower runners in just over 60 minutes. But after adjustment, I was second of about 40 runners (excluding pacers). Never happened before, even though this was not my best time for this race - sometimes I've done it in less than 60 minutes. Perhaps times were slower because it was surprisingly hot for Wellington at this time of the day and year.

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    1. age-sex adjustment ... literally the best thing since sliced bread!

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  11. I've managed to do some running the last two weeks - just 2 or 3 runs a week. I'm still getting pain in my left foot. I've also been getting tight muscles at the front outside of the lower leg. (There are loads of different muscles in the lower leg!) I think these tight muscles and their tendons are causing (at least contributing to) the problems in the foot. I'm having to manage it by doing lots of massage of the tight/sore areas. The tight areas can be very stubborn and do not want to release. To save my fingers and thumbs, I've been trying a tennis ball today (leaning into it against a wall) - easy to do and provides some relief. My right leg muscles seem to be fine; I don't know why it keeps happening in the left, other than that had the injury and is probably weak and sensitive. I'm trying to make sure I do post-run stretches including calf stretches. I'm hoping I'll soon be able to increase the frequency, distance and speed of my runs, but for the moment am content to just be getting out there and getting some fitness back. Not looking forward to this forecast cold week ahead mind.

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    1. Good luck with your efforts at fixing these annoying injuries.

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  12. I may have wound Asta up a bit by suggesting that the Spine Race was more of a challenge than running on tarmac! My bad. :-D

    It's a shame you don't really have time for the blog anymore Kate, though quite understandable when you clearly have so much going on. It has been wonderful for so many of us to be provided with a place to get together and chat about running. Equally, it's been amazing to see such a large and lovely community come together over the past few years to support, encourage, console and applaud you on your journey to sub-3. What a smashing bunch of people. Hopefully you'll enjoy many more successes.

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  13. Just a thought, but how about sharing editorial duties? There are a number of long term contributors here, some of whom write longer posts than Kate 😀. How about giving them editor access and having a rolling editorial? I'd hate to see this blog slowly die off.

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